Wednesday, 24 September 2008

recording......

Mike arrived today and we did some editing on the drum track that I recorded a while back. Got the drums sounding cool, pretty dry sounding, not really any effects going at the moment and ill try and keep em as they are, prob a bit of eq and compression here or there, the ride cymbol sounded a bit to 'nice' so tomorrow we'll look and making that a bit more nasty. It always amazes me that recording takes longer than you'd imagine. Then we moved onto bass, but only had time to get a sound up, so Im gonna record bass tomorrow. I added some distortion under the clean bass sound but ill have a listen back tomorrow. Ive got my 70's rickenbacker 4001 out which Ive had for ages and Im gonna try it thru a few amps tomorrow, an ampeg svt2 and a selmer head from the 60's. Everton lost to Blackburn away..........bollox

13 comments:

sharpfish said...

You know I've waited up all night (5:40 am now) to here you talk about eq and compression.

Now I can go sleep in peace. ;)

It's great to hear you talking about music again! Recording does take ages, imagine how much longer it takes when you don't have a great engineer like Mike around to share the duties...! (hint = 10 years!) ;)

best of luck tommorow with the bass and stuff. Sorry to hear about Everton.

viola said...

we can waiting as long as you record the songs~

Suzi said...

It's going to sound amazing. Yes.

sharpfish said...

And the time of my comment should excuse me writing 'here' instead of 'hear' but in today's world, I know it won't. I feel so ashamed.

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MRM said...

I love that you're updating so often. Big things take long time man, i will be patient like a stone!
Please add some pic to posts so we can see the tools you're using and how are you doing Paul! :)

deffed said...

i knew blackburn would win, how could you think otherwise

cloughiewasthegreatest said...

Sorry to be thick, but I've had analogue recording equipment and also a bit of home recording diggy-tull software for years, and I still have absolutely no idea what compression and eq do. What are they for? What do they do? Compression implies making something smaller to me!

Caroline said...

Do you know what Paul, I haven't got the fookin clue what you're on about. I haven't even mastered G minor on my acoustic yet! But it all sounds great and I'm highly excited...keep it up!

Lesley said...

I agree with Caroline..i haven't the foggiest what you mean but it all sounds cool and exciting!!

Good luck!

sharpfish said...

Compression reduces the dynamics of a sound/track. Then you re-add some volume gain to make the quieter sections louder and if it has a peak limiter stops the peaks going over a certain range. the upshot of it is that it makes a sound, vocals for example, more uniform in volume (i.e you don't get really quiet vocals followed by really loud ones as may happen without some compression).

That is a typical and obvious example. They can also be used for many other things (creatively or technically). And in general make things punchier/louder. Used on most tracks in a mix inc drums, guitars etc to 'tame' the dynamic range to keep things more level. Compression (or limiting) on entire mixes is often overdone these days in the name of the 'loudness wars' whereby more compression enables a higher overall RMS volume in the track so it 'sounds louder' than a competitor's track and stands out. This got crazy in the last ten years or so and has actually made music sound more brittle and harsh as it's loosing a bit too much dynamic range (less difference between the quieter and louder parts of a song)

EQ just cuts/boosts part of the frequency of a sound/mix. Often you will cut low end EQ from sounds in a mix that don't have any useful content there but muddy things, and vice versa. Useful for notching out a place in the spectrum for each sound in a mix so they sit together nicely instead of all getting mushy/busy.

Again a simple example and both areas are quite complex topics when you get into them, but that's the basic idea. Hope this helps, sorry if you wanted to hear PD tell you but just in case he didn't at least people can stop wondering now! :)

There are also many other things like reverb/delay/effects, limiting, multi band compression etc that go on in mixing/mastering other than just recording instruments to tracks.

Sorry if I come across as a know it all, I wasn't going to reply but I've seen people ask this quite a lot now (inc after the Draperview.com QnA I did with Paul last year where I asked him about these topics).

iPandah said...

Well, I have nothing of value or interest to say, I simply want to state that I just read the whole blog, and now my eyes have gone helluvva funny. Who knew white writing on a black background could be so psychadelic? Trippin.

cloughiewasthegreatest said...

It was a genuine question - thank you mr Fish! I will attempt to use that knowledge to make the songs I do for my little lad more dynamically pleasing. By the time he's 20 he'll probably understand it all anyway, and if I don't do it he'll mock me for being an acoustic heathen, as of course I would have done to my old Dad!